bruinsrme
Nov 18, 04:19 AM
Unfortunately, you're wrong on most if not all counts.
First, it would be patented material, not copyrighted material. And patent infringement, especially design patents, is really quite easy to pursue.
Second, the Chinese supplier is "Foxconn", not "Foxcomm".
Third, and finally, in cases like these, as a general rule, even though Foxconn is the supplier, Apple is the owner of the parts. If Apple ordered that the parts in question be destroyed, putting them in a box and taking them home doesn't count, and certainly neither does selling them to a friend in the US. If they are the actual parts produced for Apple, then it is quite likely that they are, indeed stolen goods, and both this boy and the employee who got the parts for him are in trouble.
However, if the people involved were a bit smarter, then these parts would be from a production run not ordered by Apple. Under those circumstances, depending on how the contract is worded, there may have been enough wiggle room for them to sell these parts, especially given the fact that the actual Apple parts never went into formal production.
Finally, while it's arguably quite impressive that this kid was able to sell about 450 kits, to the tune of $130K, it's important to remember that this doesn't mean that he's made $130K. I would think it much more likely that he's getting maybe 10%-20% of that. Still, $13,000-$26,000 is not a bad haul for a couple months work...
Do you have proof apple ordered the destruction of the products?
There are a few outlets to get the same products but they are in China.
First, it would be patented material, not copyrighted material. And patent infringement, especially design patents, is really quite easy to pursue.
Second, the Chinese supplier is "Foxconn", not "Foxcomm".
Third, and finally, in cases like these, as a general rule, even though Foxconn is the supplier, Apple is the owner of the parts. If Apple ordered that the parts in question be destroyed, putting them in a box and taking them home doesn't count, and certainly neither does selling them to a friend in the US. If they are the actual parts produced for Apple, then it is quite likely that they are, indeed stolen goods, and both this boy and the employee who got the parts for him are in trouble.
However, if the people involved were a bit smarter, then these parts would be from a production run not ordered by Apple. Under those circumstances, depending on how the contract is worded, there may have been enough wiggle room for them to sell these parts, especially given the fact that the actual Apple parts never went into formal production.
Finally, while it's arguably quite impressive that this kid was able to sell about 450 kits, to the tune of $130K, it's important to remember that this doesn't mean that he's made $130K. I would think it much more likely that he's getting maybe 10%-20% of that. Still, $13,000-$26,000 is not a bad haul for a couple months work...
Do you have proof apple ordered the destruction of the products?
There are a few outlets to get the same products but they are in China.
kfscoll
Apr 28, 09:33 AM
I'd actually pay a little extra to get Lion on a read-only USB drive. I've had to reinstall SL a few times (new computers, testing, new hard drive, etc) and reinstalling (heck, even booting) from optical media is painfully slow.
OutThere
Oct 6, 11:29 AM
Multiple screen sizes would throw a wrench into the simplicity of apps that fit one form factor.
I do think there will be potential to include some really awesome OLED screen tech that could increase visual real estate in the iPhone in the next few years, though.
I do think there will be potential to include some really awesome OLED screen tech that could increase visual real estate in the iPhone in the next few years, though.
katie ta achoo
Sep 17, 11:52 PM
Myself... I'm packin' Smacky. <10 points to whomever first identifies the reference>
Isn't that from Get Fuzzy?
/mmm, google. :D
edit:
to be on topic:
If you're set on a mac-usin'-momma, is there a Mac User group you could meet some Mac-using ladies at? We're a fun bunch (if I may say so myself.)
Other than that, I dunno.. go to starbucks or something to meet people? A singles mixer? *shrug*
Isn't that from Get Fuzzy?
/mmm, google. :D
edit:
to be on topic:
If you're set on a mac-usin'-momma, is there a Mac User group you could meet some Mac-using ladies at? We're a fun bunch (if I may say so myself.)
Other than that, I dunno.. go to starbucks or something to meet people? A singles mixer? *shrug*
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Fiveos22
Sep 27, 08:56 AM
I'm hoping to see those OpenGL improvements significantly boost my Quake 1 fps on my MacBook.
d4rkc4sm
May 2, 03:39 PM
thicker thinner, is it really worth front page news? let us have news of obama bin ladens death!
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-SD-
Jun 16, 07:27 PM
Finally we have official confirmation of the dimensions: 270mm(W) x 75mm(H) x 264mm(D). Which is apparently 17% smaller than the original.
:apple:
:apple:
King Cobra
Sep 15, 01:07 PM
>I'm sorry about that double post it won't let me delete them
Heh. Someone else had that problem. You have to be one of us, muhahahahaha! :eek:
>I personally feel that OS X and the whole Mac experience is worth the difference for a computer that will without a doubt whip the pants off that Dell and continue to do it after it the Dell is dead and gone.
I think Gatelaid may suffer first: Sleep forever standing up, like a cow. :D
OS X absolutely *kills* all the other OSs, as most of us know (especially with 10.2). You won't see that with a Windoze update. Upgrading to ME is sort of a 50:50 deal, whether you upgrade successfully, or upgrade in heck. And constant Windoze upgrades come in the fashion of "kill a bug/get one free". But as long as you don't have upgrader cards or such with your Mac, OS 10.2 really doesn't need so many updates, except for add-ons and stuff.
Heh. Someone else had that problem. You have to be one of us, muhahahahaha! :eek:
>I personally feel that OS X and the whole Mac experience is worth the difference for a computer that will without a doubt whip the pants off that Dell and continue to do it after it the Dell is dead and gone.
I think Gatelaid may suffer first: Sleep forever standing up, like a cow. :D
OS X absolutely *kills* all the other OSs, as most of us know (especially with 10.2). You won't see that with a Windoze update. Upgrading to ME is sort of a 50:50 deal, whether you upgrade successfully, or upgrade in heck. And constant Windoze upgrades come in the fashion of "kill a bug/get one free". But as long as you don't have upgrader cards or such with your Mac, OS 10.2 really doesn't need so many updates, except for add-ons and stuff.
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yurarse
Sep 20, 07:48 PM
Updated the EFI and the beast is moving faster (I did'nt hear any loud fans), SMC was already updated so I didnt need to download it.
But I dont see the other Hard drives; can u point me to a link that has the information?
But I dont see the other Hard drives; can u point me to a link that has the information?
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citizenzen
Apr 3, 01:28 PM
Yeah but some states have increased or set taxes virtually on everything and still managed to overspend their budget *cough*California*cough*.
I've lived virtually my whole life in California and have no clue what you're talking about.
Perhaps you can source that.
As for balance, I'm a big believer in it. In my opinion an "balanced" solution includes tax increases as well as government cuts. Unfortunately, the republicans have fought tooth and nail against tax increases and have tried to balance a 26 billion dollar deficit with cuts. If only they embraced the notion of "balance". :rolleyes:
I've lived virtually my whole life in California and have no clue what you're talking about.
Perhaps you can source that.
As for balance, I'm a big believer in it. In my opinion an "balanced" solution includes tax increases as well as government cuts. Unfortunately, the republicans have fought tooth and nail against tax increases and have tried to balance a 26 billion dollar deficit with cuts. If only they embraced the notion of "balance". :rolleyes:
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PlaceofDis
Jan 14, 11:21 PM
A few people have set up chat for MWSF in ichat. it is called: MWSF08. Simply go to file>Go to chatroom> MWSF08. All 7 of us in the room were wondering if MacRumors could lock this or announce it somehow.
macrumors has its own IRC channel, fwiw.
http://www.macrumors.com/2003/06/08/macrumors-irc-channel-macrumors/
macrumors has its own IRC channel, fwiw.
http://www.macrumors.com/2003/06/08/macrumors-irc-channel-macrumors/
thisisahughes
Mar 23, 01:15 PM
I figured this would be coming once I seen the Pioneer VSX-1021-K.
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cupcakes2000
Mar 28, 05:34 PM
Is not true: a 50mm EF lens and a 50mm EF-s lens will have the same focal length and field of view on a crop camera.
I don't think that's true. I pretty much know it's not actually.
Shooting a 50mm on a 5d will produce a focal length of 50mm and a Field of view of 50mm. (50x1+50)
Shooting a 50mm on a 7d will produce a focal length of of 50mm and a field of view of 80mm. (50x1.6=80)
Part of the reason these two cameras exist is because one of them (5d) is full frame, awesome pictures for weddings say. Slow fps but that's not what it's for.
The 7d however is aimed at sports photogs or wildlife for example. Still an awesome picture, but loses some of it (including aperture, and the fact you can't get as smaller dof, and ISO and the fact you can't get the same low light abilities) for a much faster fps. The focal length multiplier will also help so that you can get closer to the picture with the same lens.
Same with their top two cameras one is the ultimate full frame camera (the 1D-s mkIII), the other is the ultimate crop (1.3) camera (the 1d mkIV).
If there was no difference they wouldn't do it.
it's a smaller sensor, so therefore a smaller field of view.
Why don't you just google it? Or put in a source that proves you right?
I don't think that's true. I pretty much know it's not actually.
Shooting a 50mm on a 5d will produce a focal length of 50mm and a Field of view of 50mm. (50x1+50)
Shooting a 50mm on a 7d will produce a focal length of of 50mm and a field of view of 80mm. (50x1.6=80)
Part of the reason these two cameras exist is because one of them (5d) is full frame, awesome pictures for weddings say. Slow fps but that's not what it's for.
The 7d however is aimed at sports photogs or wildlife for example. Still an awesome picture, but loses some of it (including aperture, and the fact you can't get as smaller dof, and ISO and the fact you can't get the same low light abilities) for a much faster fps. The focal length multiplier will also help so that you can get closer to the picture with the same lens.
Same with their top two cameras one is the ultimate full frame camera (the 1D-s mkIII), the other is the ultimate crop (1.3) camera (the 1d mkIV).
If there was no difference they wouldn't do it.
it's a smaller sensor, so therefore a smaller field of view.
Why don't you just google it? Or put in a source that proves you right?
henrikrox
May 6, 06:09 PM
sweet thanks alot mate
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Cougarcat
Apr 25, 05:50 PM
don't have those Amazon placeholders a pretty bad reliability index?
Yes. Amazon doesn't know anything. They are just guessing.
That said, I'd bet money on DVD+Mac App Store being the two options. Maybe for 10.8 we'll see USB drives.
Perhaps Family Pack edition only. Or maybe have it a premium option.
For who? People who bought a 2011 iMac or MacBook in the first half of the year? That's a pretty small audience. It's possible Apple could offer a "premium" USB version for a bit more, but it *definitely* won't use thunderbolt.
Yes. Amazon doesn't know anything. They are just guessing.
That said, I'd bet money on DVD+Mac App Store being the two options. Maybe for 10.8 we'll see USB drives.
Perhaps Family Pack edition only. Or maybe have it a premium option.
For who? People who bought a 2011 iMac or MacBook in the first half of the year? That's a pretty small audience. It's possible Apple could offer a "premium" USB version for a bit more, but it *definitely* won't use thunderbolt.
OllyW
May 5, 02:44 PM
Where did they say in the website that you need to buy antivirus software?
You don't need to buy antivirus software.
You don't need to buy antivirus software.
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edesignuk
Dec 22, 05:59 AM
I have no time for the 'campaign'. I have a limited amount of time for debate over the logic behind it.You seem to have all the time in the world to come in here and point out how "pathetic" we all are. Really nice of you btw, thanks.
No one needed "time for the campaign", they spent 30 seconds buying a song for less than �1. No one was put out (other than possibly you getting all wound up about it).
Call people "pathetic" all you want. I think it's pretty laughable how you've clearly been far more put out by it's very existence than any of those who took part were.
People seem to be looking in to what was supposed to be a simple bit of fun/rebellion too much. No one cares what record label people are with. It wasn't an attack on labels or the music industry. The point was simple, to have something the complete opposite of X Factor at number 1. We did it, quickly and simply, with minimal fuss, and all from the comfort of sitting in front of our own computers.
No one needed "time for the campaign", they spent 30 seconds buying a song for less than �1. No one was put out (other than possibly you getting all wound up about it).
Call people "pathetic" all you want. I think it's pretty laughable how you've clearly been far more put out by it's very existence than any of those who took part were.
People seem to be looking in to what was supposed to be a simple bit of fun/rebellion too much. No one cares what record label people are with. It wasn't an attack on labels or the music industry. The point was simple, to have something the complete opposite of X Factor at number 1. We did it, quickly and simply, with minimal fuss, and all from the comfort of sitting in front of our own computers.
strwrsfrk
Apr 28, 02:27 PM
seriously just shut ur pretty faces with the tired backlit keyboard anthem. this is like the least desirable feature esp since it has a direct impact on battery life.
Backlit keyboard is a nice aesthetic feature for many. It's also extremely useful for those of us who type while looking at the keyboard and tend to do a lot of traveling at night/underground. Plus, since all iterations of the keyboard have user-controlled brightness levels, the argument against it as a power sink fail. In my opinion, and as someone who really wants a backlit keyboard, the best argument against the feature is that it has the potential to increase the price to maintain such a large margin.
The TDP of the C2D and 320M combined is about 25W, I believe. The i5 2357m is a 1.4GHz proc with the HD3000 core and a TDP of 18W. By including this as the base processor, the battery life would inherently improve (without increasing the size of the battery), but a little bit of internal space would open up where the 320M was. This could be used for an SDHC card on the 11", or increased battery, or maybe an additional USB port. My wish would be to bump the base speed of the i5 up to 1.6GHz or even 1.8GHz and maintain a TDP of 25W.
A larger screen and/or thinner bezel would be nice, but I'd settle for coloring the darn thing black (without the weight of the glass over the screen). The bezel on my MacBook Pro is fantastic in comparison; I find the silver distracting.
A 2lb 11" Air with an i5 proc at 1.8GHz, a 256GB SSD, backlighting, 8+ hour battery-life, and a starting price of $100 less (dream on, I know), and there is no way I could keep myself from buying one.
Backlit keyboard is a nice aesthetic feature for many. It's also extremely useful for those of us who type while looking at the keyboard and tend to do a lot of traveling at night/underground. Plus, since all iterations of the keyboard have user-controlled brightness levels, the argument against it as a power sink fail. In my opinion, and as someone who really wants a backlit keyboard, the best argument against the feature is that it has the potential to increase the price to maintain such a large margin.
The TDP of the C2D and 320M combined is about 25W, I believe. The i5 2357m is a 1.4GHz proc with the HD3000 core and a TDP of 18W. By including this as the base processor, the battery life would inherently improve (without increasing the size of the battery), but a little bit of internal space would open up where the 320M was. This could be used for an SDHC card on the 11", or increased battery, or maybe an additional USB port. My wish would be to bump the base speed of the i5 up to 1.6GHz or even 1.8GHz and maintain a TDP of 25W.
A larger screen and/or thinner bezel would be nice, but I'd settle for coloring the darn thing black (without the weight of the glass over the screen). The bezel on my MacBook Pro is fantastic in comparison; I find the silver distracting.
A 2lb 11" Air with an i5 proc at 1.8GHz, a 256GB SSD, backlighting, 8+ hour battery-life, and a starting price of $100 less (dream on, I know), and there is no way I could keep myself from buying one.
CaoCao
Apr 10, 12:17 AM
First other organizations offer abortions as well. So I'm not sure what your logic is getting at.
Second PP was not started by the KKK.
Finally, I don't know if what Abby Johnson is saying is true but if abortions are truly going on at a magnitude that she suggests and PP is illegally funding them, I don't know why she's the only firsthand source.
I dont know how many of you guys actually have firsthand experience with PP and how many are just doing the keyboard jockey thing but I've been in 3 Planned Parenthood waiting rooms. Those places are always packed with women. It'll be raining and the place won't open for another hour and there will still be a line outside. From looking around, I have never seen any woman there with a late term pregnancy. What I did see were a lot of women - usually from high school to mid-20's, lower income, probably no health insurance. Since my high school days, PP has always been the primary resource for testing and/or contraception. Through their counseling, which is actually pretty effective, it's also one of the best resources to learn how to be sexually responsible.
Margaret Sanger had "interesting" views of minorities
That's a little simplistic don't you think?
One would assume that you'd also be pro gun control, pro universal healthcare and anti military if not "diminish[ing] that asset" was truly so important to you.
Somehow, I doubt that you're consistent in your stance.
Pro-gun control (okay on hunting rifles/shotguns, no on automatics and mandatory gun safety training for urban possession). Pro-universal healthcare. The military could be a lot less involved internationally and still maintain Pax Americana.
I am that consistent.
Who says people are the greatest asset? Do you know what happens when bacteria overwhelms its environment? Have you ever heard of too much of a good thing? ;)
I also advocate for a simpler lifestyle
Well, Cao Cao for one.
So I'm eager to hear of all the political programs he suports that enhance the probability of health and livelihood for all people, lest one of those precious assets suffer an untimely demise.
Cao Cao must be a big proponent of speed limits, helmet laws, OSHA, the FDA, the EPA, government regulations, etc.
Well to Marxists people are the greatest asset and in a way in capitalism too.
Yes, I support speed limits, helmet laws, OSHA, the FDA, the EPA.
I call fake photo. Just look at the "photo credit: registeredmedia.com" slapped on bottom right corner.
From wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger) (because that's the fastest way for me to search this little piece of history)
All she did was give a speech on birth control to women in that organization.
Oh, and how are people (especially the very young) going to know about consequences if they are not properly informed of consequences and dangers? Are you (CaoCao) proposing that they know of these things after the fact. After teens have already gotten pregnant because they didn't understand and were told about birth control and what it does. Are they told only after contracting an STD from an infected partner who didn't know that he/she was infected.
:mad:
I know it is probably shopped, I was using that image to represent Margaret Sanger's views on eugenics and treatment of minorities.
People need to be adequately informed of consequences and dangers, it is vital to discouraging them.
eawmp1, have you done both? What is easier, a couple hours of pain or eighteen years of hard work?
I love how in 2009 Planned Parenthood did 332,278 abortion and 977 adoption referrals, that's like 340 to 1
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_Services.pdf
Second PP was not started by the KKK.
Finally, I don't know if what Abby Johnson is saying is true but if abortions are truly going on at a magnitude that she suggests and PP is illegally funding them, I don't know why she's the only firsthand source.
I dont know how many of you guys actually have firsthand experience with PP and how many are just doing the keyboard jockey thing but I've been in 3 Planned Parenthood waiting rooms. Those places are always packed with women. It'll be raining and the place won't open for another hour and there will still be a line outside. From looking around, I have never seen any woman there with a late term pregnancy. What I did see were a lot of women - usually from high school to mid-20's, lower income, probably no health insurance. Since my high school days, PP has always been the primary resource for testing and/or contraception. Through their counseling, which is actually pretty effective, it's also one of the best resources to learn how to be sexually responsible.
Margaret Sanger had "interesting" views of minorities
That's a little simplistic don't you think?
One would assume that you'd also be pro gun control, pro universal healthcare and anti military if not "diminish[ing] that asset" was truly so important to you.
Somehow, I doubt that you're consistent in your stance.
Pro-gun control (okay on hunting rifles/shotguns, no on automatics and mandatory gun safety training for urban possession). Pro-universal healthcare. The military could be a lot less involved internationally and still maintain Pax Americana.
I am that consistent.
Who says people are the greatest asset? Do you know what happens when bacteria overwhelms its environment? Have you ever heard of too much of a good thing? ;)
I also advocate for a simpler lifestyle
Well, Cao Cao for one.
So I'm eager to hear of all the political programs he suports that enhance the probability of health and livelihood for all people, lest one of those precious assets suffer an untimely demise.
Cao Cao must be a big proponent of speed limits, helmet laws, OSHA, the FDA, the EPA, government regulations, etc.
Well to Marxists people are the greatest asset and in a way in capitalism too.
Yes, I support speed limits, helmet laws, OSHA, the FDA, the EPA.
I call fake photo. Just look at the "photo credit: registeredmedia.com" slapped on bottom right corner.
From wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger) (because that's the fastest way for me to search this little piece of history)
All she did was give a speech on birth control to women in that organization.
Oh, and how are people (especially the very young) going to know about consequences if they are not properly informed of consequences and dangers? Are you (CaoCao) proposing that they know of these things after the fact. After teens have already gotten pregnant because they didn't understand and were told about birth control and what it does. Are they told only after contracting an STD from an infected partner who didn't know that he/she was infected.
:mad:
I know it is probably shopped, I was using that image to represent Margaret Sanger's views on eugenics and treatment of minorities.
People need to be adequately informed of consequences and dangers, it is vital to discouraging them.
eawmp1, have you done both? What is easier, a couple hours of pain or eighteen years of hard work?
I love how in 2009 Planned Parenthood did 332,278 abortion and 977 adoption referrals, that's like 340 to 1
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_Services.pdf
freeman24
Aug 14, 03:01 PM
I think the Apple adverts are ingenious! (did i spell that right?) i have to admit it made me turn to apple.
plastictrees
Mar 27, 10:38 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8B117 Safari/6531.22.7)
Anything new to report guys?
Went to bestbuy at park lane and got mine!!
Did you reserve it? I hate that apple guy that works there. He's always rude to me.
Anything new to report guys?
Went to bestbuy at park lane and got mine!!
Did you reserve it? I hate that apple guy that works there. He's always rude to me.
Arran
Mar 26, 05:15 PM
Schmidt: Hey Steve, you think a quarter's an okay tip? I mean, it's only a latte.
Steve: Pffft. No wonder you're rich.
Schmidt: (Looks around furtively. Whispers.) All in pennies - so it looks bigger. Yeah?
Steve: They'll count it, dummy!
Schmidt: Okay. I'll hand it to that *other* server, and ask him to pass it on?
Steve: (Sighs. Shakes head) They're going to see it all eventually so who cares how they get it.
(Okay, maybe not :) )
Steve: Pffft. No wonder you're rich.
Schmidt: (Looks around furtively. Whispers.) All in pennies - so it looks bigger. Yeah?
Steve: They'll count it, dummy!
Schmidt: Okay. I'll hand it to that *other* server, and ask him to pass it on?
Steve: (Sighs. Shakes head) They're going to see it all eventually so who cares how they get it.
(Okay, maybe not :) )
imahawki
May 5, 01:40 PM
I didn't read the whole thread so maybe someone already said it but if they put 30 crapware and trial programs on Macs they could probably drop the price... but they don't want to. The Windows machines should say $1200 - $400 from crapware vendors to be more fair.
As far as why people buy Macs? Windows has gotten a TON better but a lot of the same problems still apply. I got tired of trying to make backup rotation work on my Win7 machine (it won't do it you can only backup to ONE destination. If you want to change that you edit your ONE allowed backup policy but you can't even have multiple policies to allow for not changing the policy every time you rotate your disk), I got tired of driver problems with my Wacom Intuous (certain apps wouldn't let you click buttons with the mouse but worked with the pen [random crap like that]) I got tired of all the registry trash that every program you want to demo leaves behind, I enjoyed the alleged openness but honestly got tired of the lack of real-world compatibility (the esata card I bought "worked" but not in AHCI mode so I couldn't hot swap. And even just leaving it in IDE mode I got a BIOS error every time I booted).
I could go on. I'm pretty objective and there are areas where Windows and generic hardware provide advantages but its not that cut and dried and people aren't suckers for paying more for a mac.
As far as why people buy Macs? Windows has gotten a TON better but a lot of the same problems still apply. I got tired of trying to make backup rotation work on my Win7 machine (it won't do it you can only backup to ONE destination. If you want to change that you edit your ONE allowed backup policy but you can't even have multiple policies to allow for not changing the policy every time you rotate your disk), I got tired of driver problems with my Wacom Intuous (certain apps wouldn't let you click buttons with the mouse but worked with the pen [random crap like that]) I got tired of all the registry trash that every program you want to demo leaves behind, I enjoyed the alleged openness but honestly got tired of the lack of real-world compatibility (the esata card I bought "worked" but not in AHCI mode so I couldn't hot swap. And even just leaving it in IDE mode I got a BIOS error every time I booted).
I could go on. I'm pretty objective and there are areas where Windows and generic hardware provide advantages but its not that cut and dried and people aren't suckers for paying more for a mac.
Laird Knox
Mar 3, 09:00 PM
The height was my way of not being seen while taking the photo. I could have taken it at the same level they were, but I'm almost sure they'd have seen me doing it. If I hadn't found the higher vantage point I probably wouldn't have taken a picture of them. I'm glad I did and that it is well received (so far). :)
Then I hope for your sake that they aren't MacRumor regulars. :D
Then I hope for your sake that they aren't MacRumor regulars. :D
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