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  • whmees
    Aug 4, 12:39 AM
    right... so what exactly do i have to do for my relatively new MBP to "accidentally" start encountering "problems" and have to have it sent in to get a replacement?

    ;)





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  • Spoe
    Apr 20, 09:26 AM
    Not a summer update? Surprising.

    Most of September is summer (in the Northern Hemisphere, anyway), you know. Just the last week and change isn't. :)





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  • BenRoethig
    Jul 29, 10:54 PM
    I'll believe the iPhone when I see it. It's been "just around the corner" for what, a year and a half now.





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  • 3CCD
    Aug 11, 04:55 PM
    digitalbiker thats not realistic. Figure a machine like that would cost you something around $1799





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  • ECUpirate44
    Mar 28, 11:13 AM
    The second update makes more sense.





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  • GregA
    Nov 28, 03:16 PM
    Of course this so called tablet could be several different things � a true video iPod, a supered up remote, a UMCP based micro mac. I just find it fun to speculate based on the info at hand:)
    Absolutely. :)

    That was why I asked... you were speculating on a full Mac, but in a tablet form. In contrast to a new (and cheaper) device in tablet form (which might appeal to me).

    Apple has the mind share and technology to create any new products which fit somewhere between iPods and Macs. The iTV is an excellent example. Will they release some form of Tablet? I think a MacTablet will experience similar popularity to existing tablets. As such, I think a Tablet-Pod (or iTablet or iPad or something) is more likely from Apple and opens more possibilities... I'm not confident they'll release anything SOON though :)





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  • iJawn108
    Jul 22, 07:57 PM
    Thanks for the links.

    I don�t see why a 20% increase in speed is going to rock the boat. Especially if it�s in the MBP. So if it is ready for shipment I don�t see any advantage in waiting for the MBP line to upgrade.

    I guess I�ll have to do some research about the battery performance.

    Noone knows what Steve Jobs will do, but I think he had been roper-doping long enough with the G3 and G4. What 6 years with the same G4? He needs to come out swinging while Apple still has a strong brand name from the iPod.

    I hope to see some changes. The last 5 years have been so slow that it hasn�t been worth keeping up with.
    64 bit addressing. :rolleyes:





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  • twoodcc
    Nov 26, 11:53 AM
    well i think it'd be great if Apple released this. but i'm not so sure it'll happen. would love it if it did, but i'll believe it when i see it





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  • Cobrien
    Sep 11, 11:01 AM
    And the logic here is..... iPod = iPod with iusic? If Apple had that logic, we would have seen an mPod, right? Or pPod for the iPod Photo. But I have seen them doing thinks that would throw real logic out of the door, before, so yeah, why not vPod for the video one.

    What if its pronounce "vaye-pod" rhyming with iPod.

    Or am I just clutching at straws.





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  • Euphonious
    Mar 27, 10:29 AM
    With AT&T's network running SO slow at times, I ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT INSTALL an update which make me use the server farm for streaming my own media.

    A lot of people need to calm down.

    Do you really think that the cloud update is going to stop you playing media that's already on your phone? Do you think Apple's just going to drop the internal memory?

    The cloud option will be just that - an option. You'll still be able to store music and video on your phone. The cloud stuff just extends the possibilities.





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  • azilnik
    Aug 2, 10:22 PM
    Nope. The entire line will be Core 2 Duo by Thanksgiving. MBP will get speed bump to 2.33GHz for further differentiation while MB will remain 2GHz. No logic to keep buying Core Duo processors for the same money as Core 2 or less than they bought Yonah to begin with. They are already making record profits. I doubt they will deliberately cripple mini, iMac and MB when everything is selling like hot cakes anyway. There are plenty of other ways each line differentiates from the other. To leave any line in Core Duo would be outright greedy and I dont' see Apple as having that personality trait.

    I fugure it's a 50-50 chance Steve tells the developers next week they can start thinking about 64-bit optimization due to the Core 2 shift that will be complete this year.
    Interesting. I see your point and quite frankly I agree, I do however believe that Apple will announce it because the chips are definately out and running, Apple wants to stay ABOVE cutting edge, so why wouldn't they announce the chips?





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  • IconicM
    Apr 20, 08:56 AM
    Being that iP4 and iP5 will have the same form factor, wouldn't it make sense for Apple to make the 4 the same as the 5, i.e. no glass on the back and whatever other external changes the 5 brings? I would think they would be able to save money...same on the outside, different on the inside.

    So maybe it will be a release of the 4S and 5?





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  • twoodcc
    Jul 29, 08:45 PM
    I can already see Phil sitting in the audience and then Job's cell phone rings..

    Jobs: um..excuse me a sec..Seems I have a phone call..
    Pulls out this cool looking cell phone,flips it open and says hello?
    Phil: Say Steve,can we have a chat real fast ? then starts up iChat on his iPhone..
    Jobs: starts up iChat on his cell phone..

    The rest is history :D

    i could see something like that happening





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  • weedy
    May 6, 03:53 AM
    This has to be one of the topics on macrumors with the highest ********-per-post ratio.

    Seriously guys, didn't you learn anything from the PPC->Intel move?

    Go learn something about ARM, the industry and Apple itself and then have an informed and imaginative opinion. ;)





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  • ProfessorApple
    Apr 5, 07:39 PM
    I wonder why Apple gives a hoot? This couldn't be hurting them could it?:confused:





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  • PlaceofDis
    Jul 21, 01:55 PM
    up the chips in the MBPs and up the speeds in the MBs?

    seems likely to me.





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  • milo
    Aug 11, 10:52 AM
    Apple is being more directly compared to Dell and such these days since they are running Intel chips. And the PC makers are going to put those processors in their computers as soon as they can. If Apple doesn't want to look like they are behind in the times, they have to put these processors in also.

    Do you really think Dell will put merom in ALL laptops and not use yonah at all? I doubt it. Yonah will likely always be cheaper and we'll probably see it for a while in budget laptops. I could see yonah either staying in macbooks for a bit, or staying in the base model only (or even a special edu config like the iMac has).

    MacBook and MacBook Pro are soldered. So no, you can't change it.

    The iMac and MacMini are socketed.

    And the Pro. :)

    Are there any benchmarks for the Core 2 Duo chips? What would we be getting from the upgrade?

    Supposedly about 20% faster at the same clock speed, plus they are 64 bit, but the benefits of that in these machines is somewhat debatable. It's a nice upgrade, but not a huge one.

    Quite incorrect actually. The dfifference is not minimal and this isn't just a "speed bump". If you read up on the Yonah and Merom chip architectures, you'll see that that Merom has significant architectural improvements over Yonah, including a 4MB L2 cache and most notably 64-bit support over Yonah's 32-bit support. This is very significant since Jobs is pushing Leopard and its 64-bit goodness. :cool:

    But that "goodness" mostly looks like greater memory access, which is a moot point in a machine with two ram slots. Most of the "goodness" isn't anything a laptop user will notice.





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  • shaolindave
    May 4, 05:48 PM
    Wow, what a great job to completely and unfairly judge people.

    I consider myself OCD level organized. One of the reasons why I am so organized (more so than ever now) is because much of my media and software have transitioned to digital.

    You have a very negative spin on Apple's approach. Instead of "dumbing down", I'll call it "simplifying", and I absolutely welcome the change.

    My family lost all their disc and some of mine. No matter how organized I am, so long as I have to do the 'family tech support' stuff, no disc is a plus.





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  • fivetoadsloth
    Apr 10, 07:25 PM
    Mathematica 8. As far as I am concerned the most powerful math software available. People don't shell out thousands of dollars for a product that can't do basic math.

    288.





    Glideslope
    Apr 5, 02:47 PM
    Leave the jailbreak community alone Apple!! What is your ****ing problem??? Can't we just coexist???:mad:

    No.

    Tim. :apple:





    Stridder44
    Aug 4, 10:13 AM
    I have been wondering the same thing. No matter how good the news is, there are still a bunch of negative votes. It just re-inforces my belief there is an organized effort to discredit Apple on this site. If it was just individuals, I would wonder why waste time on an Apple website if you did not like Apple? It makes no sense in that scenario. I do believe the PC establishment is worried about the possibility of Apple gaining more of a foothold in corporate America.


    Downvoters have been around here and doing this exact thing for a loooooooooooooong time, this is nothing new. And everytime it happens someone comes in here asking "How could someone vote this a negative?!!?"

    Again, not to pick you out of the crowd but Im just saying....these neg. voters are nothing new.





    baryon
    May 4, 06:23 PM
    This is great, with Snow Leopard I couldn't buy it for weeks as they were constantly "out of stock" in the shops.

    But how do you boot from a disk image without a disk???





    D4F
    Apr 26, 02:16 PM
    What a shocker... :rolleyes:





    ChipWinter
    Sep 11, 12:03 AM
    So ... would a Beatles announcement be the cause for a London feed? Or would that be too big of a thing for this one event?



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